Return to the same. April 9. 1763
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Return to ye same. Ap. 9. 1763
Forbes
Copy of a return to the above.
Steuart
Return to the same, April 9. 1763
Paton
Reply to this letter
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Forbes
Vol. 9, 1874—1877Paton
Vol. 3, 204—205Credits
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| Person | Robert Forbes |
| Date | 09 Apr 1763 |
| Place | Leith |
| Place |
received
| Person | Reverend John Stewart |
| Place | Inverness |
acknowledgements
compliments to
enclosed in
this letter and the previous letter, Copy of a Paragraph from Rev. Mr. John Stewart (v09.1873.01), are enclosed in a letter to Bishop Gordon (v09.1870.01).
enclosures
requests
Forbes requests that Stewart “Find out John's age, and how many children he has, and inform me”.
he also asks that Stewart inform him of the “right syllabication of OS'ean or OS'ian according to the Galic”.
Forbes also requests that Stewart write down Grant's “feats from his own mouth, and let me have the history of them”. He also asks that he “be particular”.
Forbes ends his letter by requesting that Stewart: “Remember me kindly to the stout, resolute, sogerly Patrick, and tell him I am still the old man whatever change may chance to be in him by smelling powder in the wilds of North America, I would wish to know the particular time of his return to the Braes of Urquhart and Glenmoriston”.
remediation
in Forbes
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Passive:
Copy of a Paragraph from the Revd. Mr. John Stewart. (v09.1879.02): Mentioned in footnote
Letter from Lady Gask (v09.1883.01): Mentioned in footnote
Transcription
Copy of a Return to the Above.
It is most providential, that you &and Pa-
trick Grant are become acquainted; for
I was meditating to put a piece of Ser-
vice upon you, in which he can be
most useful, &and it is this. There is One
John MackDonell, alias, OS’ean, or
OS’ian, i.e. Hark you, John, or, Hear
you, John, who was Chief of the
8 heroic Glenmoriston-Men, who
did much Honour to their Country
by their most generous, disinterest-
ed Conduct. Now, this same John,
I am well informed by the best au-
thority, is old, has a Family, &and is
extremely poor. What pity is it
then, not to say Reflection, that he
has never been considered for his
most seasonable, superlative Servic-
cesServices? A plan, therefore, is now laid
to raise a Contribution for him, qchwhich,
if it takes place, you are to be made
Almoner of. Do you then enquire at
Patrick Grant about this same John,
where he lives, &and all about him, 1875 (1875)
without allowing Patrick to know
any thinganything of your Design, that so
you may have him in your Eye, &and at a
Call, if aliquid boni chances to come
in the Way. He lives, if I am rightly
informed, somewhere in the Brae of
Glenmoriston near the Farm of Cras-
kie; but Patrick can well inform you.
Find out John’s Age, &and how many
Children he has, &and inform me. Let
me know the right Syllabication
of OS’ean, or OS’ian, according to the
GalicGaelic; for I reckon this ordinary Spel-
ling to be corrupted. The Foundation
of this Appellation to John is most
honourable; insomuch, that John ought
to order it to be adopted by his poste-
rity, from Generation to Generation,
as a patronymic or SirnameSurname. Pray,
mind to enjoin this. I have Patrick’s
Picture indeed, &and a most striking Like-
ness it is, with a proper Inscription u-
pon it. I would not give it for any
Money. I did him some small Services,
qchwhich he seems to overvalue. He was
extremely fond of his own portrait.
I knew well of his being press’dpressedsome
to North America some time in 1759.
&and 1876 (1876) &and that he returned to his own Home,
by this place, upon Chelsea-pension;
but all these old Sinners, when they
are inured to the paths of Tergi-
versation, fly from me, as they would
do from a thing that would hurt ymthem,
but Patrick, I know, was forced, &and
therefore, he might have pull’dpulled up
as much Courage as to see me.
You say, he made a notable Figure
in N.North America. Pray then, be so good
as to write down his Feats from
his own Mouth, &and let me have
the History of them. Mind this
by all means, &and be particular.
He has my thanks for the Gar-
ters, tho’though I have not yet got ymthem.
I dare say, they are pretty, &and I
will wear them for his Sake. I
will get them from Mr Ross, qnwhen
I have the good Luck to see
him. Remember me kindly to yethe
stout, resolute, sogerly Patrick, &and
tell him, I am still the old Man,
whatever Change may chance to
be in him by smelling powder in
the
1877
(1877)
trick Grant are become acquainted; for
I was meditating to put a piece of Ser-
vice upon you, in which he can be
most useful, &and it is this. There is One
John MackDonell, alias, OS’ean, or
OS’ian, i.e. Hark you, John, or, Hear
you, John, who was Chief of the
8 heroic Glenmoriston-Men, who
did much Honour to their Country
by their most generous, disinterest-
ed Conduct. Now, this same John,
I am well informed by the best au-
thority, is old, has a Family, &and is
extremely poor. What pity is it
then, not to say Reflection, that he
has never been considered for his
most seasonable, superlative Servic-
cesServices? A plan, therefore, is now laid
to raise a Contribution for him, qchwhich,
if it takes place, you are to be made
Almoner of. Do you then enquire at
Patrick Grant about this same John,
where he lives, &and all about him, 1875 (1875)
without allowing Patrick to know
any thinganything of your Design, that so
you may have him in your Eye, &and at a
Call, if aliquid boni chances to come
in the Way. He lives, if I am rightly
informed, somewhere in the Brae of
Glenmoriston near the Farm of Cras-
kie; but Patrick can well inform you.
Find out John’s Age, &and how many
Children he has, &and inform me. Let
me know the right Syllabication
of OS’ean, or OS’ian, according to the
GalicGaelic; for I reckon this ordinary Spel-
ling to be corrupted. The Foundation
of this Appellation to John is most
honourable; insomuch, that John ought
to order it to be adopted by his poste-
rity, from Generation to Generation,
as a patronymic or SirnameSurname. Pray,
mind to enjoin this. I have Patrick’s
Picture indeed, &and a most striking Like-
ness it is, with a proper Inscription u-
pon it. I would not give it for any
Money. I did him some small Services,
qchwhich he seems to overvalue. He was
extremely fond of his own portrait.
I knew well of his being press’dpressed
to North America some time in 1759.
&and 1876 (1876) &and that he returned to his own Home,
by this place, upon Chelsea-pension;
but all these old Sinners, when they
are inured to the paths of Tergi-
versation, fly from me, as they would
do from a thing that would hurt ymthem,
but Patrick, I know, was forced, &and
therefore, he might have pull’dpulled up
as much Courage as to see me.
You say, he made a notable Figure
in N.North America. Pray then, be so good
as to write down his Feats from
his own Mouth, &and let me have
the History of them. Mind this
by all means, &and be particular.
He has my thanks for the Gar-
ters, tho’though I have not yet got ymthem.
I dare say, they are pretty, &and I
will wear them for his Sake. I
will get them from Mr Ross, qnwhen
I have the good Luck to see
him. Remember me kindly to yethe
stout, resolute, sogerly Patrick, &and
tell him, I am still the old Man,
whatever Change may chance to
be in him by smelling powder in
the
the Wilds of North America. I
would wish to know the particu-
lar Time of his Return to the
Braes of Urquhart &and Glenmori-
ston. Here is Work cut out for
the leisurely Appinus of well
known De-li-be-ra-ti-onDeliberation.
would wish to know the particu-
lar Time of his Return to the
Braes of Urquhart &and Glenmori-
ston. Here is Work cut out for
the leisurely Appinus of well
known De-li-be-ra-ti-onDeliberation.
Leith, April 9. 1763.
Citation
Forbes, Robert. “Copy of a return to the above.” The Lyon in Mourning,
vol. 9,
Adv.MS.32.6.24, fol. 19v–21r. The Lyon in Mourning Project,
edited by Leith Davis, https://lyoninmourning.dhil.lib.sfu.ca/ v09.1874.01.html.