Ash-wednesday's Paper printed in Edinburgh
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Ash-wednesdays Paper printed in Edr
Forbes
Ash-Wednesday paper printed in Edinburgh
Forbes
Resolution to stand to a certain plan
Forbes
Mr. Nicholas Brett, a money-making body, much of the laical cast
Paton
Letter from Bishop Forbes to Bishop Gordon
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Forbes
Vol. 9, 2023—2030Paton
Vol. 3, 306—309Credits
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| Person | Bishop Forbes |
| Date | 28 May 1774 |
| Place | |
| Place |
received
| Person | Bishop Gordon |
| Place | London |
acknowledgements
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Yours of the 19th instant is now lying before me, and I hasten to answer that I may make you easy upon a point which seems to be somewhat distressing to you (Paton V.3, 306).
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Upon perusal of your letter, I could not help looking once more into his arguments and my remarks upon them, and the more I consider the former, the more silly and futile do they appear to me, just like one at a loss what to say, and beating about to invent some shew or argument (Paton V.3, 307).
compliments to
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We rejoice to hear of the welfare of Mr. Smith of Burnhall, and his lady, whose behaviour to your good liking is agreeable to hear. I heartily join with you in wishing they may hold steady in this giddy age. All things good and happy to them and the worthy grandmother. God be ever with you, good Mrs. Gordon and all yours (Paton V.3, 309).
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To B.Bishop G.Gordon
Yours of the
19th instant is now lying before me, &and I
hasten to answer, that I may make you
easy upon a point, which seems to be
somewhat distressing to you.
19th instant is now lying before me, &and I
hasten to answer, that I may make you
easy upon a point, which seems to be
somewhat distressing to you.
The Duplicate is given to Lord Linton’s
Lady, who, upon seeing mine, begged it as
a singular Favor to have such a Present,
when any more should come to hand, &and
her Ladyship has received it with great
Pleasure &and many Thanks. You know, per-
haps, that she is an English Lady.
Lady, who, upon seeing mine, begged it as
a singular Favor to have such a Present,
when any more should come to hand, &and
her Ladyship has received it with great
Pleasure &and many Thanks. You know, per-
haps, that she is an English Lady.
Yes, I know, that Mrs Strange sent 3 to
Mrs Reynolds, with whom Mrs Smith
of Burnhall lodged, when in EdrEdinburgh, &and
withal wrote, that She knew not well
how to dispose of them, as, it would
appear, so few are the Friends, &and such the
Indifference &and Lukewarmness, in angliȃ!
Indeed, Sir, had I 100. even more than
that Number, I would know well how
to dispose of them to very good Purpose.
Such is the Difference. You cannot i-
magine, how much these same Heads,
&and the Ash- Wednesday’s Letter, have re-
vived the Spirits of not a few. As I could
not get the rare Piece introduced into
a 2024 (2024) a News-Paper, you see, it has been pub-
lished in another Shape. Honest John
Wilson has got 1000 of them cast off.
They are purchased in Dozens &and Half-
Dozens, to be given away, in order to
make them spread. Even some of the[]
greatest Whigs &and Presbyterians have
purchased Copies, &and they are heard to
say among themselves, It is all true!
It is all true! They have reached
to Caithness &and the Orkneys. When any
such Rarity comes in the Way, you see,
who will be a gentle &and thankful Re-
ceiver, &and will make a proper Use of it.
Such Opportunities ought to be improved.
Mrs Reynolds, with whom Mrs Smith
of Burnhall lodged, when in EdrEdinburgh, &and
withal wrote, that She knew not well
how to dispose of them, as, it would
appear, so few are the Friends, &and such the
Indifference &and Lukewarmness, in angliȃ!
Indeed, Sir, had I 100. even more than
that Number, I would know well how
to dispose of them to very good Purpose.
Such is the Difference. You cannot i-
magine, how much these same Heads,
&and the Ash- Wednesday’s Letter, have re-
vived the Spirits of not a few. As I could
not get the rare Piece introduced into
a 2024 (2024) a News-Paper, you see, it has been pub-
lished in another Shape. Honest John
Wilson has got 1000 of them cast off.
They are purchased in Dozens &and Half-
Dozens, to be given away, in order to
make them spread. Even some of the
greatest Whigs &and Presbyterians have
purchased Copies, &and they are heard to
say among themselves, It is all true!
It is all true! They have reached
to Caithness &and the Orkneys. When any
such Rarity comes in the Way, you see,
who will be a gentle &and thankful Re-
ceiver, &and will make a proper Use of it.
Such Opportunities ought to be improved.
All the Civilites in our Power,
were extremely well bestowed upon Mrs
Gordon of Dumfries. She purchased a Do-
zen of the bold Letter.
were extremely well bestowed upon Mrs
Gordon of Dumfries. She purchased a Do-
zen of the bold Letter.
I am now well provided in Franks1,
having no fewer than 16. I expected to
have heard from Bob Keith upon his
setting out for German Dominions.
However, I am glad to learn from you
of his safe Arrival at Potsdam. Much
Success &and a safe Return to him in all
due Time.
having no fewer than 16. I expected to
have heard from Bob Keith upon his
setting out for German Dominions.
However, I am glad to learn from you
of his safe Arrival at Potsdam. Much
Success &and a safe Return to him in all
due Time.
The Number of Communicants in Edina
is within Bounds, &and not at all exagge-
rated. I could name two Country-Con-
gregations in Aberdeenshire, that have,
each of them, at Easter, 6 or 7, if not
800 Communicants, all Glory be to God.
is within Bounds, &and not at all exagge-
rated. I could name two Country-Con-
gregations in Aberdeenshire, that have,
each of them, at Easter, 6 or 7, if not
800 Communicants, all Glory be to God.
Now, as to the ill-grounded Whis-
per; Let Mr C. D. E. F. &and G. say what
they please, your Friend’s Resolution,
in Case of a certain Event, is fix’dfixed &and 2025 (2025) determin’ddetermined, like the Laws of the Medes
&and Persians, which altereth not. For, he
is positive to act, as agreed upon, under
God, in case of Survivance, being cloathedclothed
with full power for that Effect by the
only One who could give it, &and no One
has a just Right to quarrel it. The
Agreement betwixt you &and your Friend
has not been so much as hinted to any
one Man by me, &and must not be breathed.
per; Let Mr C. D. E. F. &and G. say what
they please, your Friend’s Resolution,
in Case of a certain Event, is fix’dfixed &and 2025 (2025) determin’ddetermined, like the Laws of the Medes
&and Persians, which altereth not. For, he
is positive to act, as agreed upon, under
God, in case of Survivance, being cloathedclothed
with full power for that Effect by the
only One who could give it, &and no One
has a just Right to quarrel it. The
Agreement betwixt you &and your Friend
has not been so much as hinted to any
one Man by me, &and must not be breathed.
The intended Tergiversation of Mr
Brett is no new Thing to me, as I must
now tell you, my dearest Friend, in the
greatest Confidence, that, some years
ago, Mr Brett thought fit to have
carefully transmitted to me, sub sigillo
Confessionis, his Thoughts upon the
melancholy Subject, earnestly desiring
my Opinion of them. Without Loss of
Time I wrote Remarks upon his Argu-
ments, which were speedily put into
his Hands; but to this Day, he has ne-
ver made the smallest Reply either
by Word or Writ. Indeed, I am sorry to
say it, his Reasonings are poor &and weak,
truly weak as Water, as we say in Scot-
land. They are so open &and liable to Ex-
ception, that I wrote the Remarks upon
them without consulting any one Au-
thor. He puts me in Mind of a Man
plunged into a River, struggling for
bare Life, &and catching at every straw
on the Surface of the Water, to keep
him from drowning. Had not you open-
ed the Door to me, I would not have 2026 (2026) enter’dentered. Though he communicated his
papers to me sub sigillo Confessionis,
yet it would be unpardonable in me
not to let you into the Secret, as he is
prematurely voluntieringvolunteering, &and even, as you
justly say, “presumes to tell the Rem-
nant what they ought to do.” High
&and bold Presumption indeed! &and what
I never would have expected from one of
his Sterling Education, Learning, &and Know-
ledge. Alas! alas! no Man enters into
an Error, without wishing to have Com-
pany along with him. Upon Perusal
of your Letter, I could not help look-
ing once more into his Arguments &and
my Remarks upon them, &and the more
I consider the former, the more silly
and futile do they appear to me, just
like One at a loss what to say, and
beating about to invent some shew of
Argument. All this applies too well
to the Dream; for you know, Sir,
Cockades and Pistols portend War. —
By the bye, there are strange, un-
accountable Forebodings and Rumors
of Wars in this Country, just like
what happened among us before 1745.
I listen not much to such Things; but
I must frankly own the Similarity of
Similarity of appearances strike
deep with me. Well, let us wait wtwith
Patience the Will of God; for all must
be, as He will have it. Are there 2027 2027 any such Forebodings &and Rumors wtwith you?
Brett is no new Thing to me, as I must
now tell you, my dearest Friend, in the
greatest Confidence, that, some years
ago, Mr Brett thought fit to have
carefully transmitted to me, sub sigillo
Confessionis, his Thoughts upon the
melancholy Subject, earnestly desiring
my Opinion of them. Without Loss of
Time I wrote Remarks upon his Argu-
ments, which were speedily put into
his Hands; but to this Day, he has ne-
ver made the smallest Reply either
by Word or Writ. Indeed, I am sorry to
say it, his Reasonings are poor &and weak,
truly weak as Water, as we say in Scot-
land. They are so open &and liable to Ex-
ception, that I wrote the Remarks upon
them without consulting any one Au-
thor. He puts me in Mind of a Man
plunged into a River, struggling for
bare Life, &and catching at every straw
on the Surface of the Water, to keep
him from drowning. Had not you open-
ed the Door to me, I would not have 2026 (2026) enter’dentered. Though he communicated his
papers to me sub sigillo Confessionis,
yet it would be unpardonable in me
not to let you into the Secret, as he is
prematurely voluntieringvolunteering, &and even, as you
justly say, “presumes to tell the Rem-
nant what they ought to do.” High
&and bold Presumption indeed! &and what
I never would have expected from one of
his Sterling Education, Learning, &and Know-
ledge. Alas! alas! no Man enters into
an Error, without wishing to have Com-
pany along with him. Upon Perusal
of your Letter, I could not help look-
ing once more into his Arguments &and
my Remarks upon them, &and the more
I consider the former, the more silly
and futile do they appear to me, just
like One at a loss what to say, and
beating about to invent some shew of
Argument. All this applies too well
to the Dream; for you know, Sir,
Cockades and Pistols portend War. —
By the bye, there are strange, un-
accountable Forebodings and Rumors
of Wars in this Country, just like
what happened among us before 1745.
I listen not much to such Things; but
I must frankly own the Similarity of
deep with me. Well, let us wait wtwith
Patience the Will of God; for all must
be, as He will have it. Are there 2027 2027 any such Forebodings &and Rumors wtwith you?
You are pleased to call Mr Brett
a lukewarm &and moderate Man; but,
might you not have added a Money-
Making Body? Where that is the
Case, the pitiful Pelf &and the sordid
Dross will drive a Man very strange
Lengths. I have often heard of him,
that he was more of the laical,
than of the clerical, Cast, dipping
much in secular Affairs &and worldly
Business. Poor Man! I envy him
not; but much do I pity him. Were
a Change happening, that would
soon make a Change in him. Me-
thinks, he should be a little more
modest in his Presuming to direct
the Remnant, &andc. as, who knows who
may go first off the Stage of Life?
What say our good Friends, Mr &and
Mrs Bowdler, of his Arguments? I
hope, they do not listen to the new-
vamp’dnew-vamped Reasons of Compliance.
God be thanked for your good State
of Health. May it increase &and continue.
a lukewarm &and moderate Man; but,
might you not have added a Money-
Making Body? Where that is the
Case, the pitiful Pelf &and the sordid
Dross will drive a Man very strange
Lengths. I have often heard of him,
that he was more of the laical,
than of the clerical, Cast, dipping
much in secular Affairs &and worldly
Business. Poor Man! I envy him
not; but much do I pity him. Were
a Change happening, that would
soon make a Change in him. Me-
thinks, he should be a little more
modest in his Presuming to direct
the Remnant, &andc. as, who knows who
may go first off the Stage of Life?
What say our good Friends, Mr &and
Mrs Bowdler, of his Arguments? I
hope, they do not listen to the new-
vamp’dnew-vamped Reasons of Compliance.
God be thanked for your good State
of Health. May it increase &and continue.
I received the other Day a Let-
ter from the RevdReverend Mr Smith, to
whom is inclosedenclosed a Return.
ter from the RevdReverend Mr Smith, to
whom is inclosedenclosed a Return.
We rejoice to hear of the Welfare
of Mr Smith of Burnhall &and his
Lady; whose Behaviour to your good
liking is agreeable to hear. I heartily 2028 (2028) join with you in wishing they may
hold steady in this giddy Age. All
things good &and happy to them &and the
worthy Grandmother.
of Mr Smith of Burnhall &and his
Lady; whose Behaviour to your good
liking is agreeable to hear. I heartily 2028 (2028) join with you in wishing they may
hold steady in this giddy Age. All
things good &and happy to them &and the
worthy Grandmother.
ADieu,
Dear Sir,
ADieu.
Dear Sir,
ADieu.
May 28.
1774.
1774.
P.S. After writing the other
Leaf, I happened to see Mrs Rey-
nolds, who told me, She had got
five prints of the two lovely
Heads. I said, She was well
off, in being the lucky Person
to have so many of them.
Leaf, I happened to see Mrs Rey-
nolds, who told me, She had got
five prints of the two lovely
Heads. I said, She was well
off, in being the lucky Person
to have so many of them.
I was lately highly pleased,
to find, the Non-Subscribants
would be had met with one
more Rebuff. L.Lord North, Burke,
&andc. behaved well. Will ever
the Enemies of the Church of
England, or rather, indeed, of
Christianity, have done with
their sly &and bold Attempts? No,
no; they are set on by the old
Deceiver, who will never give
over to the last Glimpse of Hope!
to find, the Non-Subscribants
would be had met with one
more Rebuff. L.Lord North, Burke,
&andc. behaved well. Will ever
the Enemies of the Church of
England, or rather, indeed, of
Christianity, have done with
their sly &and bold Attempts? No,
no; they are set on by the old
Deceiver, who will never give
over to the last Glimpse of Hope!
We have got a new Club in
EdrEdinburgh under the Name of the
Royal-Oak-Club. They have
a Sovereign, whose Head is
adorned with a blue Bonnet,
having a Medal on the Front
of it, with an Oak delineated
on it, with these Words below
THE ROYAL OAK, &and
round the Top, in the Seg-
ment of a Circle, PRO RE-
GE ET PATRIA. They
meet the first Mond^ay of every
Month, &and the Sovereign dic-
tates all the Toasts. Each
Member has such a Medal,
as above described, hanging by
a RibbandRibbon on his Breast. When
One offers to be a Member, a
single Vote rejects the Pe-
tition. All must be unani-
mous.
Once more ADieu.
EdrEdinburgh under the Name of the
Royal-Oak-Club. They have
a Sovereign, whose Head is
adorned with a blue Bonnet,
having a Medal on the Front
of it, with an Oak delineated
on it, with these Words below
THE ROYAL OAK, &and
round the Top, in the Seg-
ment of a Circle, PRO RE-
GE ET PATRIA. They
meet the first Mond^ay of every
Month, &and the Sovereign dic-
tates all the Toasts. Each
Member has such a Medal,
as above described, hanging by
a RibbandRibbon on his Breast. When
One offers to be a Member, a
single Vote rejects the Pe-
tition. All must be unani-
mous.
Once more ADieu.
Citation
Forbes, Robert. “Ash-Wednesday paper printed in Edinburgh.” The Lyon in Mourning,
vol. 9,
Adv.MS.32.6.24, fol. 94r–97v. The Lyon in Mourning Project,
edited by Leith Davis, https://lyoninmourning.dhil.lib.sfu.ca/ v09.2023.01.html.
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