Account how I came by Mr. Gib's Pocket-book of Accompts, and of several Conversations I had with him at different Times

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Here follows an Account how I
came by Mr Gib’s Pocket-book con-
taining his Accompts1, as also an
Account of several Conversations
I had with Mr Gib at different
Times, &corig.

Thursday, June 9th (betwixt 8 and 9 in
the Morning) 1748, I was with Bishop Keith
in his own House, Canongate, when he
told me, he had been accidentally in
Company, in the New Stage-Coach Office,
EdrEdinburgh, with one Mr Gib, whom he discove-
red to have served the Prince in Station
of MrMaster-HousholdHousehold &and of Provisor for the
Prince’s own Table. In course of the
Conversation, BpBishop Keith said, Mr Gib
informed him, that he had been so
lucky, amidst all Misfortunes, as still
to preserve his Pocket-book, wherein
he had writ his Accompts. Upon this
B:Bishop Keith observed to me, that, as I had
been wanting much to have an exact
Journal of the Prince’s March to &and from
England, so now I could be well se^rved
with one; “for (added he) Mr Gib’s Count-
“book will bear Faith in any Court, or be-
“fore any Judge, in the World.” I told
the Bishop, that I had often heard of
Mr Gib, &and had likewise seen him, but then
I had always reckoned that he had lost all 1010 (1010)
all his Papers, seeing I well knew of
his being a Prisoner for a long Time; &and
therefore it was, that I had never
entertained any Thought of asking
Questions about such Things at him, or
of being particularly introduced to him,
which now I would be exceedingly fond
of. For this purpose BpBishop Keith appoint-
ed me to meet him at Eleven o’ Clock
in the New Stage-Coach Office. Accor-
dingly we met in the Place appointed,
&and I was there introduced to Mr Gib.
After conversing with him a little, I told
him, I was much pleased to hear, that
he had preserved his Pocket-book, &and
then I begged to know, if I might see
it. Mr Gib said, the Pocket-book was
in his Room, &and he would immediately
go &and fetch it, which he did. He brought
it to me wraptwrapped about with his white
Cockade, the End of which was well
fixed with two Seals, so that yethe Book
could not be opened without breaking
the Seals or cutting the Ribband. He
broke the Seals, and, taking away the
white Ribband, he delivered the Book
to me. I told Mr Gib, that I had No-
thing to do with the Articles of his
Accompts; for all I wanted, was, to
take an exact Transcript of the Dates
&and of the Names of the Places contained in 1011 (1011)
in his Pocket-book, as a Journal of
the Prince’s March to &and from England;
a Thing I had been seeking much
after for a long Time, but did never
meet with any Thinganything till now, that could
satisfiesatisfy me in that Point. After look-
ing into the Book, I observed to Mr
Gib, that there were several Blanks în it
of Dates &and of Names of Places, &and de-
sired to know, if his Memory could
serve him so well as to fill these
up. To this Mr Gib answered, that he
very seldom used to set down Dates &and
Names of Places, but when &and where
he had bought some Provisions, which
Point he explained to me more parti-
cularly at another Meeting I had with
him, as will appear hereafter. Mean
timeMeantimie, he assured me, he could easily
supply all the Blanks I should observe
in the Pocket-book, some of which I
instantly filled up from his Memory,
particularly from JanryJanuary 31st, 1746, to the
3d of March, &cetc.
See pag: 995 in this Vol:

In looking carefully ^(afterwards) through the Pocket-
book, I could observe only three Dates
&and Names of Places without any Arti-
cle of an Accompt annexed to them,
viz,

“1745. NovrNovember
“yethe 23 &and 24 at kendel.|
In this, pag: 971.

“Drum lenrick yethe 23 DecbrDecember
“Dugless yethe 24 Do:Ditto”
In this page: 975.

I parted wtwith Mr Gib about 12 o’ Clock, &and 1012 (1012)
&and told him, I would take other Op-
portunities of conversing with him.
After returning home, I began to re-
flect, how many wicked &and malicious
Persons had industriously spread a Re-
port (affirming it as a grand Truth)
that the young Pretender &and his Army
had dealt very much in, &and had lived
altogether by, Pillaging &and Plundering;
&and therefore, as Mr Gib’s Pocket-book
was an evident &and indisputable Proof
of the Contrary, I resolved, upon se-
cond Thoughts, to transcribe[] exactly
&and faithfully every single Article of
his Accompts, as I found them in the
Book, (all in his own Hand-writing)
without so much as altering the spel-
ling of a Word, ^&c.etc. &and to communicate
this my Intention to Mr Gib before I
should put Pen to Paper.

Agreeably to the forementioned false
Report the common Cry of the Mob was,
“Charlie, King of the Robbers! Charlie,
“Prince of the Robbers!”— Which Cry
I have had frequently bawled after
me, when walking through Leith.
And indeed it is not to be wondredwondered at,
that the Populace should take up such
a Cry, &and should be led to believe a Lie,
when, with great Solemnity, they were
frequently taught their Lesson from the 1013 (1013)
the Pulpit; for the Cant of the Presby-
terian Teachers in their Sermons, both
before &and after the Battle of Culloden,
when they happened at any Time to
mention the Prince &and his Army, was,
in the following &and the like Terms,
viz, — “Injustice &and Oppression, Rapine
“&and Plunder, Bloodshed &and Murder, —
“direful Misery &and Destruction, — Shock-
“ing Barbarities, — Innocents robbed,
“slain, massacred, — Fire &and Sword, —
“lawless starving Banditti, — bloody
“House of Stewarts, — merciless
“Race, — Robberies, — Thieves &and
“Murderers, — wild Ravages and
“Devastations!”— &cetc, &cetc, &cetc. See Plenty
of such Epithets in the Substance of
two Sermons preached by Mr AlexrAlexander
Webster, EdrEdinburgh, &and printed, 1746. This re-
markable &and extraordinary Performance
is just now lying before me, when
writing these Remarks.

These Gentlemen, when harranguing
their credulous Hearers in such Terms
as Banditti, Thieves, Robbers, &c.etc. might
have had the good Manners to have
excepted some of the best Blood in
the Nation, such as, The Duke of Athol,
the Duke of Perth, Earl of Kilmarnock, Viscount 1014 (1014)
Viscount of Strathallan, Lord Pitsligo,
Lord Nairn, Lord George Murray, Lord
John Drummond, &and many others that
might be named, who appeared in that
Cause; but all of them, from the high-
est to the lowest, behovedbehooved to be stained
with the same Blots of Malice &and Fals-
hoodFalsehood, as indeed Decency is quite out
of the Question, when the sacred Rules
of Truth are trifled with, &and the con-
secrated Places of God’s holy Wor-
ship are prostituted to the vilest of
purposes.

The Clergy of the Church of England,
as established by Law, &and the dissenting
Preachers in that Kingdom, did not
come short of our Scots presbyteri-
an Teachers; for their printed Ser-
mons smell rank of FalshoodFalsehood, Blood
&and Cruelty, &cetc! The printed✝ Discourse of
one Wood, a dissenting Preacher in
Darlington, is a Master-piece &and truly
a Monster of it’sits Kind. He has yethe daring
Effrontery to put Words into the Mouth
of God Almighty, &and to teach Omnipo-
tence what to say to the D:Duke of Cum-
berland; in which Speech there are
some glaring Untruths, pag: 7 &and 8!

Even the learned &and celebrated Dr Young
cou'dcould prostitute his Wit to fling a Jargon of
defaming Epithets at the Prince &and his brave

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Newcastle upon Tyne, 1746.

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brave Followers, in the Conclusion
of his Night=Thoughts, viz, “Pope-bred
“Princeling, — replete with Venom,—
“guiltless of a Sting, — whistle Cut-throats,
“— suck’dsucked in Malice with his Milk, —
“Brother-robber, — ragged Ruffians
“of the North, — savage Mountaineers,
“&cetc, &cetc;” Poor Stuff! not more silly &and
mean than false &and calumniating,
quite unbecoming such a superioursuperior
Genius, &and no less unfit to have a
Place in one of the finest Pieces
of Poetry that ever appeared. No
Man will call in question the fine
Parts &and excellent Genius of Dr
Young; but I must beg Leave to
doubt much, if he has been Master
of Common Sense &and good Man-
ners. — See Scots Magazine for SeptrSeptember
1747, pag: 419, 420, &cetc.

Notwithstanding all the scandalous
&and groundless Reflections, that have been,
&and still are, so plentifully thrown out
against the Prince &and his Followers, yethe
plain Truth is, that never was there
an Army of VoluntiersVolunteers in any Country,
or at any Time, that behaved with so
~~greater~~^ ^ ^much good Order &and Discretion, ~~than~~ as the 1016 (1016)
the Prince’s Army did. Insomuch that
let any oneanyone run a Comparison (accord-
ing to Truth &and Justice) betwixt the
Prince &and his Highlanders ^&and the D:Duke of
Cumberland &and his Red-coats, &and he
will soon have Reason to look upon yethe
Former as the regular well-disciplined
Army under the Influence &and Command
of a mild &and humane General, &and upon
the Latter as a Gang of irregular, un-
disciplin'dundisciplined, voluntieringvolunteering Cut-throats
under the Direction of a Butcher or
a Bear: Let the Places, through which
both Armies marched, witness yethe Truth
of this Assertion. Let the Houses, that
were pillaged✝ &and plundered, even be-
fore the Battle of Culloden, be Evi-
dences of that Mildness &and Wisdom, qchwhich
some lying Sycophants see shining so
conspicuously in the Character of their
adored Cumberland. When he was in
Perth with his Army, orders were issued
out for pillaging &and plundering the
House of Machany the Country-Seat
of the Viscount of Strathallan, the House
of Oliphant of Gask, the House of Gra-
ham of Garrock, &c.etc. which Orders were
most strictly put in Execution/; for the
Parties spared not the Body-cloathsclothes of
the Ladies, &and they destroyed such Provisions
as they could not either consume or car-ry

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ry off with them, breaking the Bottles
&and other Vessels full of Liquor, &c.etc. as
if they intended, that the poor Ladies,
their Children &and Servants should be
all starved to Death for Want of CloathsClothes,
Meat &and Drink. Party after Party came
to the said Houses, &and took away such
Gleanings as had not been observed
by the former Party, or any small Stock
of Provisions the Ladies had procured
after the first rummaging Bout. Se-
veral of Cumberland’s principal Offi-
cers lived upon free Cost in their march-
ing Northwards, as some Families in
Perth, in Aberdeen, &c.etc. can well vouch
to their sad Experience. These Officers
would most impudently ask what was
for Dinner or Supper, &and order what
Dishes &and of what Kind they pleased,
as if they had been to pay for yethe Whole,
&and would have brought in with them
what other Officers they thought fit
to dine &and to sup with them, &and the Land-
lord of the House behovedbehooved to have plen-
ty of Wine &and of other Liquors at their
Command. — But all these are only
little Doings in Comparison, &and serve as
a Prelude to others, more daring &and bold,
that will immortalize the Memory of
a William the Cruel &and of his whole
Army, to the latest Ages of Posterity.
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Was it ever before heard of in a
Christian Country, that the Wounded on
the Field of Battle, should next Day,
be knocked in the Head by Orders, that
some, who had got into Barns &and other
Houses near the Field, should have
their Throats cut in the Places where
they were found, or should be taken
out, &and be set up to a Park-Wall, to
be shot at as so many Marks of
Sport &and Diversion! that the ranging
Parties (both Sogers &and Sailors) should
put poor People to the Rack &and Torture,
&and should butcher old Men, ^&and Women &and
Children, that could have no Hand
in the Troubles, &cetc, &cetc, &cetc!— My Hand
trembles when I write these Words; &and
yet these are the Laurels, that adorn
the Temples of the illustrious Lead-
er, — the illustrious Prince,—
the Generous Hero, &c.etc. Cumber-
land! who has been often blasphemously
stiledstyled by some furious Preachers Sa-
viour!— Will it not be look’dlooked on
as a Romance în After-Ages, that Englishmen &and Chri-
stians should have been employed
in burning &and destroying Chapels &and
Meeting-houses, in which their own
Prayer-book was used every Sunday
throughout the Year, &and not only so, but 1019 (1019)
but likewise that they made the Bibles
&and Prayer-books accompany one anoyranother
in the Flames! — Great &and loud were
the Outcries, both in the Pulpits &and on
the Sheets, of the Danger we were
in of being deprived of our Bibles
by the young Pretender &and his Banditti;
but let fatal Experience now teach
us against whom these Outcries ought
to have been pointed. See pag: 24th
of Mr Webster’s forementioned noted
&and singular Performance.

From those few Sketches, that can be
well vouched, let any one draw the
Pictures of the Prince &and of Cumber-
land, &and I dare say, he will find
the Picture of the Latter ^more than sufficient
to furnish Shadowings for that of
the former.

For Proof of what I have asserted
about burning Bibles &and Prayer-books,
I had a Letter from the RevdReverend Mr JasJames
Willox, dated at Keam near Elgin,
SeptrSeptember 18th 1746, in which, among other
Things, are the following remarka-
ble Words. — “Upon receiving this
“Letter I wrote to Mr Keith to endea-
“vour to raise that small sum at the
“Navy-office, and out of it to buy me
“some Books at London, wchwhich I must
“want, because the EarleEarl of Ancram had 1020 (1020)
“had at the Head of his Regiment of
“Dragoons, come 3 miles off his com-
“mon road to cause pillage my house,
“&and burn my poor undeserving Books,
“not sparing three ✝ Bibles, and sev-
“ral common Prayer-Books.”

Sic subrsubscribitur Ja:James Willox

The original Letter in Mr Willox’s own
Hand-writing, out of which I have
transcribed the preceedingpreceding Paragraph
verbatim, is to be found among my
Papers. — See vol: 2d pag: 380.

Tuesday’s Forenoon, June 14th, 1748,
I had a second Meeting with Mr Gib in
the New Stage-Coach Office, EdrEdinburgh, &and was
with him from ten to twelve o’Clock,
when I informed him, that, upon se-
cond Thoughts, I had resolved to trans-
cribe every single Article of his Ac-
compts. Mr Gib very gravely asked
me what I meant. After I had told
^him my Reason at some Length (as narrated
pag: 1012) for resolving so to [do, he said,[[]
he was glad to hear of my Design;
for that he could assure me, the Prince
paid well for every Thingeverything he got, &and
that he always ordered Drink-money
to be given liberally where he lodged.
He desired me to remark, that his Pock-
et-book contained only the smaller Ar-

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Articles of Accompts, it having been
a common Practice with him, when he
was so lucky as to meet with any Per-
son that could furnish ^him with a Stock
of Provisions, to cause such a Person
draw out a discharged Accompt for
Money received, which discharged
Accompt vouched for Mr Gib, and
the Articles of a discharged Accompt
he never set down in his Pocket-book.
He likewise told me, when he came
to any place, where he could have
a Butcher, he sent for the Butcher,
&and bargained with him for a Stock
of Provisions, always directing the
Butcher to draw out a discharged
Accompt for the Cash. Mr Gib said,
these two Remarks served to account
for all ôr most of, the Blanks in his Pocket-
book of Dates &and of Names of Plac-
es. It was no small Relief to him,
he said, when he happened to get
in discharged Accompts, for that he
had very little Time to spare for
writing, as he was engaged in ^such a conti-
nued Hurry of Business, that he
was afraid it would have killed
him. — I asked Mr Gib, what had
become of his Accompts preceedingpreceding OctrOctober 30th, 1022 (1022)
30th, the first Date in his Pocket-book?
To this he answered, that, when in the
Abbay of Halyroodhouse (where he en-
gaged in the Prince’s Service) he set
down all his Accompts on loose Piec-
es of Paper, &and never thought of hav-
ing a Book, till he heard that the
Prince had resolved to march into
England, &and then it became neces-
sary for him to have a Book.

I then filled up, from Mr Gib’s Me-
mory, some more Blanks of Dates &and
of Names of Places I had spied out
in taking a more leisurely Look of
his Accompts, &and likewise examined
what Blanks I had filled up at our
^former meeting, particularly from JanryJanuary 31st
to the 3d of March. I also writ, from
Mr Gib’s own Mouth, the greatest Part
of the Nota-Bene’sBenes, as interspers-
ed throughout my Copy of his Accompts,
particularly these relating to Mr Hy-
mer’sHighmore's House in Carlisle, to Lady Dal-
rachny’s Conduct, &and to Lord Loudon’s
Plot of seizing upon the Prince’s
Person at Moy-hall. Some of those
Nota-Bene’sBenes I writ upon blank
Pages of Mr Gib’s Pocket-book, &and
others of them upon loose Pieces
of Paper. — At this second Meeting
with Mr Gib I asked Him the follow-ing1023(1023)
ing Questions, qchwhich I had noted down in
a Memorandum before I went up to EdrEdinburgh.

Quest:Question 1st, What Day Carlisle was besieg-
ed, &and by whom? —
See pag: 968.

2d, What Day Carlisle surrendredsurrendered? —
See pag: 969.

3d, When the Prince was at Bramp-
ton, did he not go, one Day, &and dine
at Squire Warwick’s House? —
See
pag: 968.

4th, What Time Clifton was fought?
See pag: 974.

The Answers to these Questions are in-
serted in their proper Places in the
forecited Pages.

Tuesday’s Afternoon, June 21st, 1748,
I had a third Meeting with Mr Gib in
the New Stage-Coach Office, EdrEdinburgh, &and was
with him from three to Seven o’Clock,
when I went through every single Article
of his Accompts with him, the better to
prevent any Mistakes in making out
my Transcript of them; for I had dis-
scovered several Words &and Figures
so hastily writ, that I could not
well make them out, till I consul-
ted him about them. Mr Gib said, I
might easily understand the Hurry
he was obliged to in writing his Ac-
compts, when he could assure me,
that, from the Time of leaving EdrEdinburgh till 1024 (1024)
till he returned to Glasgow, he had
never thrown off his CloathsClothes when he
was going to sleep, but only once at
Manchester, when he happened in
the Morning to be a little too dilatory
in answering the Prince, when he
called; &and when he came into the Prin-
ce’s Presence, the Prince told him, he
should do as he did, “never strip at
“all,” &and then he would be the sooner
ready to answer. — In going through
the several Articles in the Accompts
with Mr Gib, I writ down some more
Nota-Bene’sBenes from his Mouth, as inter-
spersed throughout my Copy of his Ac-
Compts. — At this third Meeting with
Mr Gib, I writ the following Particu-
lars from his Mouth.

Mr Gib was on the Field of Battle
[Drummossie-muir] near the Prince’s
Person, in Time of the Action, &and says,
that the Enemy’s Cannon played smart-
ly upon the Spot of Ground where the P:Prince
took his Station, &and that he himself saw
one of the Prince’s own Grooms (Tho-
mas Ca) killed by the Prince’s Side wtwith
a Cannon-bullet.

After the Defeat, Mr Gib rode along
with Fitz-James’s Horse, keeping Sight
of the Prince to the Water of Nairn, which
they crossed about three Miles from the Field 1025 (1025)
Field of Battle, &and then the Horse
were desired to go to Ruthven of Ba-
denoch, the Prince stepping aside to
the Right, &and halting there till he
saw them all go off. Then the Prince
went up the Water about a Mile,
attended by Lord Elcho, SrSir Thomas
Sheridan, John Hay of Restalrig, and
AlexrAlexander MacLeod (one of the AidAide de camps)
&and their several Servants, among qmwhom
Mr Gib remembredremembered particularly to have
seen Ned Burk, of whom he speaks
excellent Things, as a most faith-
ful &and useful Servant. When they
had travelled about a Mile, Mr John
Hay stepping back a little, came to
Mr Gib, &and desired him to go off, &and to
shift for himself in the best Manner
he could. Mr Gib told Mr Hay, that,
being quite a Stranger in the Country,
he did not know what to do or where
to go, &and that he would not quit Sight
of the Prince so long as he could
keep him in View. To this Mr Hay
replied, “You see, Mr Gib, I my selfmyself
“am not to go with the Prince; &and there-
“fore your best is to go to Ruthven, yethe Place
“of Rendezvous, where you shall either
“see me or hear from me.” — Mr Gib
accordingly went to Ruthven, but never saw 1026 (1026)
saw the Prince or Mr Hay again, nor
heard any Thinganything about them. On the Fri-
day (April 18th) Mr Gib was making ready
to leave Ruthven; but Colonel John Roy
Stewart persuaded him to stay till To-
morrow, assuring him, that against next
Morning they would certainly receive
some Accounts from or about yethe Prince.
However, they received no Accounts qt-
someverwhatsomever about the Prince, &and then Colo-
nel Roy Stewart said, it was high Time
for every one of them to do the best he
could for himself.

On Saturday’s Morning (April 19th) Mr
Gib left Ruthven, &and made down the Country
to Braemar, where (on Monday April 21st)
he luckily met with Richard Morison,
one of the Prince’s Valet de chambres.
They kept close together, and, travelling
down the Country at great Leisure &and
with much Caution, they came safe to
the Town of Leven upon the Coast of
Fyffe, Thursday May 15th; but had yethe Mis-
fortune to be made Prisoners next Day
(Friday) by a Gadger, two Tide-waiters
&and some of the Mob, their own Land-
lady having given Information agtagainst
them. The People, that seized them, search-
ed their Pockets in Presence of the Bail-
lie of Leven, &and took every Thingeverything they
found in them. Particularly they took
from Mr Gib sixteen £ &and eighteen shil:shillings sterl: 1027 (1027)
sterl:sterling but, when he was in the Canon-
gate-Prison, he got his Money again
by the Interest of the Justice Clerk
(as will appear hereafter) except
seven Guineas, which the People
in Leven kept back from him un-
der a Pretence of Charges in tak-
ing him Prisoner &and guarding him
to Kirkaldy-Prison.

Upon Mr Gib’s telling me how rough-
ly he was used, &and how strictly he was
searched, by the People of Leven, I
asked him what Method he had
fallen upon to save his Pocket-
book? To this he answered, that, in
coming down the Country, he and
Morison had been for some Days in
the Kirktown of Alford (in Aberdeen-
shire) where they became happy in
the Acquaintance of one William
Burnet at Breadhaugh, near the Kirk-
town, an honest valuable Man, in whose
House they were entertained with
much Kindness &and Discretion. This WmWilliam
Burnet is Brother to the Laird of
Camphell. Mr Gib, being much afraid
of the worst, asked the said Mr Burnet,
if he would be so good as to take his
Pocket-book &and preserve it for him; to
which Mr Burnet very frankly agreed, &and Mr Gib, 1028 (1028)
Gib, wrapping his white Cockade round
the Book, &and putting two Seals upon it,
delivered it into Mr Burnet’s own
Hands. When Mr Gib was at his
Freedom, &and things were become more
settled, he writ North for the Book,
&and had it safely sent to him. —Here
Mr Gib said, he then little imagined,
that his Pocket-book would ever be of
so much Use, as that it would be
thought worth while to take a Copy ôf it;
for had he, in the least, foreseen such
a Thing, he should have had it
much more exact &and many more
Things &and Remarks in it.

When Gib &and Morison were made Prison-
ers at Leven, they begged to be allow-
ed the Favour of Horses, &and that they
might not be marched through the
Towns as Spectacles to be gazed at;
but they were obliged to walk on
foot to Kircaldy &and through all the
publickpublic Places, being all the Way
insulted &and abused by the Mob. They
were confined in the Prison of Kircal-
dy from the Day they were taken,
Friday May 16th, to Monday May
19th, when they were fetch’dfetched over
in a Boat from Kircaldy to Leith-
Prison, where Mr Gib was confined
to Thursday AugtAugust 14th; on which Day he was 1029 (1029)
was removed to the Canongate-Prison,
where he remained till Friday May
8th, 1747, when he was set at Liberty
by an Order from the Justice Clerk,
Provost Couts having given Bail for
him, that he should not leave the
Town of EdrEdinburgh for six Months to
come after the sdsaid 8th of May.

Here I asked Mr Gib, how he
happened to escape being carried
to Carlisle, especially as his Compa-
nion, Richard Morison, was sent up
there, &and condemned? To this he
answered, that he escaped being
sent to Carlisle by a great Accident,
which fell out thus. When the se-
cond Division of Prisoners was to be
carried from the Canongate to Car-
lisle, James Gib, being in the List,
was called again &and again, &and the
Prison-rooms were searched for
him, till at last one said, he be-
lieved, that Man, James Gib, be-
hovedbehoooved to be in Leith-prison, (which
indeed was the Case), &and that an Ex-
press should be sent for him directly;
but the Officer of the Command said,
he would not wait so long, seeing
his Men behovedbehooved to stand all the
Time under Arms upon the open Street; &and 1030 (1030)
&and therefore that Man, James Gib, might
be sent to Carlisle by the next Command.
However, for Mr Gib’s good Luck, his
Name happened never to be in any
future List, or else his Fate would
have been either Death or Banish-
ment.

At this third Meeting Mr Gib like-
wise told me, that the Prince, when
in Falkirk, lodged in the House of
one Mr Menzies,2 a private unmar-
ried Gentleman, whose Servant-lad
(he had forgot his name) visited Mr
Gib in the Canongate-prison, &and in-
formed him, that the D:Duke of Cumber-
land lodged also in Mr Menzies’s
House in his March to Stirling, &and that
Cumberland appeared to be exces-
sively afraid of himself, examin-
ing all the Doors of the House, &and
ordering Sentries to be placed at
every one of them. Cumberland or-
dered the said Man-servant to sit
up all Night in the Dining-room ad-
joining to the Bed-chamber, where he
(Cumberland) slept, with two Candles
&and a Book to keep him (the Servant)
from sleeping, with express Orders to
the sdsaid Man-servant to awake Cum-
berland precisely at four o’Clock. Sentries 1031 (1031)
Sentries were posted at the Door
of the Dining-room, where the
Man-servant sat up all Night.
When Cumberland was going off,
he ordered two Guineas for the
House, asking, in the mean timemeantime,
at the Man-Servant, how much
the young Pretender had left, qnwhen
he slept there? The Servant told
Cumberland, that the Pretender
had left five Guineas.— Moreo-
ver, the Man-servant told Mr Gib,
that Cumberland asked him seve-
ral Questions about his Master
(Menzies) alleging he was a Re-
bel. The Servant answered, he
had served Mr Menzies about
a Dozen of Years, &and had never
seen any Thinganything about him but
that he was an honest Man. Cum-
berland then asked the Servant,
if his Master had ever seen the
young Pretender? The Servant
replied, he could not tell, whether
his Master had seen him or not; for
that he had not â Room in his own
House, when the young Pretender was 1032 (1032)
was in it.

Monday’s Forenoon, June 27th,
1748, I had a fourth meeting with Mr
Gib in the New Stage-Coach Office,
EdrEdinburgh, &and was with him from a lit-
tle after ten to twelve o’Clock,
when I put Questions to him about
the following Particulars, which I had
noted down in a Memorandum in
my own Room.

Quest:Question 1: To ask Mr Gib about Lady Dal-
rachny’s impertinent Talk, which
he had slightly mentioned to me
in a former Conversation. —
See pag: 988, 996.

2. Who was suspected to be the Per-
son, that had given Information
about the Prince to Lord Loudon,
when he formed the Design of
taking the Prince? —
See pag: 990, 991.

3. If the Prince dressed more ele-
gantly at Glasgow than any o-
ther Place? —
See pag: 976.

4. What Day Inverness-Castle sur-
rendredsurrendered?
See pag: 994.

5. If Mr Gib ever recovered any
of his Money from the People
of Leven, &and by whose interest?
See pag: 1027, 1035.

6. By whom was Mr Gib set free, &and
how came it about, seeing he got
out of Prison before the Act of
Indemnity? —
See pag: 1029.
7. 1033 (1033)
7. To ask Mr Gib about the Diffe-
rence ‘twixtbetwixt his Account of Time,
&and that in the Scots Magazine
for 1746, pag: 91? —
See pag: 993,
994, 995, 996.

The Answers to the preceed-
ingpreceding seven Questions are in-
serted in their proper Plac-
es in the forecited Pages.

8. What Bed &and Table Linen did Mr
Gib receive for the Use of the Prince,
seeing Mrs Murray of Broughton had,
upon that Account, got several
valuable Presents of such from
some Ladies in &and about EdrEdinburgh?

AnsrAnswer Mr Gib received nine Dozen of
Table-napkins, &and nine Table-cloathscloths,
&and six Pairs of Sheets from Colo-
nel Strickland at the Abbay
of Halyroodhouse.

Among the Table-linen there was one
Dozen of Napkins &and the Table-cloathcloth
sowedsewed up in an old Napkin, &and parti-
cularly recommended to Mr Gib’s
Care by Mr Andrew Lumisdane at
the express Desire of Mrs Murray.
Mr Gib said, he had never the Cu-
riosity to look into them, ^(the sowedsewed up Dozen) &and added,
he had Reason to think, that all the foresaid 1034 (1034)
foresaid Bed &and Table Linen were tak-
en by the Enemy after the Battle of
Culloden, as he (Mr Gib) had them, a-
mong other Things, along with him upon
the Field of Battle in a covered
WaggonWagon, which he was forced to
leave behind him in the open Air
near the Field. — Here Mr Gib
desired me to remark, that in yethe same
Hamper with the foresaid Linen there
were likewise contained a large Sil-
ver SoopSoup-spoon, two Silver Ragout-
spoons, a large Silver-lamp for keep-
ing a Dish of Meat warm upon the
Table, &and the Prince’s Hunting-Equi-
page in a Shagreen Case, consist-
ing of six Silver Goblets, doubly
gilt, going into one another, two
Knives, two Forks, &and two Spoons,
all silver &and doubly gilt. Mr Gib
regrets the Loss of the Hunting-
Equipage more than that of all
the rest, for he says, it was one of
the most curious Things he had e-
ver seen in any Place. The Prince
brought it with him from France.
Mr Gib told me, he had heard it ru-
moured, that the Prince’s Hunting-Equi-
page should have fallen into the D:Duke of Cumberland's 1035 (1035)
Cumberland’s Hands, &and that he had
dispatched it from Inverness to Lon-
don as a great Curiosity; but what
Truth there might be in this Re-
port, Mr ^Gib said, he would not affirm.

At this fourth Meeting Mr Gib
likewise informed me, that, some time
in the first week of JanryJanuary, ^1747, he was
brought before the Justice Clerk, who
appeared to be exceedingly kind &and
smooth to him, asking, if Mr Gib had
yet recovered the Money, which yethe
People in Leven had taken from
him, &and when Mr Gib assured his
Lordship, that he had never yet
got back any of that Money,
the Justice Clerk said, he would
order his Money to be returned, qchwhich
accordingly he did; but the People
of Leven thought fit to keep back
seven Guineas of it, as before
narrated. Mr Gib soon found out
the Reason of all this Kindness;
for the Justice Clerk began to ask
him many particular Questions a-
bout the young Pretender &and his Fol-
lowers, particularly when at Ban-nockburn,1036(1036)
nockburn, &and when Mr Gib would not
answer directly, the Justice Clerk
huffed &and storm’dstormed at him. The Jus-
tice Clerk, in asking the Questions,
used to preface them thus, — “Cer-
“tainly you know this; you cannot
“fail to know it:”— And when Gib
refused, that he knew any Thinganything a-
bout these Matters, the Justice Clerk
used to say with some Emotion, —
“What! will you not answer this,
“will you not do the Government
“such a small Favour as this is?”

Mr Gib assured me, he found,
the Justice Clerk had got too good
Intelligence about many Things.

I must here remark, that, in
making out my Transcript of Mr Gib’s
Accompts, I thought fit to note down
the Days of the Week, which were not
in Mr Gib’s Pocket-book. The Rea-
son, that induced me ^to do so, was, not
only the better to ascertain the seve-
ral Dates, but likewise, it proceeded
from an ~~D[]~~ Experiment I tried
in filling up the Blanks of Dates &and
of the Names of Places in Mr Gib’s
Pocket-book; for, when I found Mr Gib at 1037 (1037)
at a loss to remember exactly qtwhat
Day of the Month they came to such
a Place, or what Day they left
such a Place, I used to ask him
if he could remember the Day of
the Week, &and then I could easily fix
upon the Day of the Month. Upon
Trial I found him never at a
Loss to recollect the Days of
the Week, which served to make
Matters distinct &and clear. To give
a particular Instance, — When
Mr Gib affirmed, that the Prince
was about a Week at Blair-Castle,
&and a Week at least at Ruthven, I
found him at a Loss to remem-
ber the particular Days of the
Month when they left Blair-Castle,
when they came to Ruthven, &and qnwhen
they left Ruthven. Upon this I de-
sired to know, if he could ~~fix upon~~
fix upon the precise Days of the
Week; which he very soon did, assur-
ing me, that, in marching from Blair-
Castle, they were only one Night at
Dalnachardich, &and next Day came to
Ruthven, which he remembredremembered well
to be a Saturday, that they left Ruth-
ven upon a Saturday, slept that Night in 1038 (1038)
in Dalrachny’s House, where next Day
the Lady would not permit the baking
of Bread because it was a Sunday,
that the said Sunday’s Night they slept
at Moyhall, &and that next Morning
(Monday) they were alarmed with
the Accounts of Lord Loudon’s De-
sign upon the Prince’s Person. This
Account of the Days of the Week, with
a little Thought, served to give me
the Days of the Month exactly.
See pag: 988, 989.

Wednesday’s Evening, 6 o’Clock,
July 13th, 1748, I had the Favour of
a visit from Mr Gib, when I deliver-
ed back to him his Pocket-book,
desiring him to preserve it care-
fully.

At this fifth Meeting with Mr Gib, I told
him, that, when he broke the Seals of
his Pocket-book (on Thursday June 9th) in
order to deliver it to me, I had ob-
served him to open the Book, &and to take
out of it some loose pieces of Paper,
&and I begged to know if they were Ac-
compts; for, if they were, I would glad-
ly take Copies of them, if he would
allow me, as I studied much to ob-
serve the utmost Exactness in making up 1039 (1039)
up my Collection of Papers, &cetc. To this
Mr Gib answered, that they were Ac-
compts, which he was very desirous
to preserve carefully, because some
of them were not yet paid; &and he hop-
ed, the Time would come yet, when
Payment would be made of them.
He took them out of his Pocket
(six in Number) &and told me, I had
all Freedom to take Copies of them.
As Mr Gib was about going off soon
for Ireland, in the way of merchan-
dizing, he desired me, after I had
taken Copies of them, to seal up
the Accompts in a piece of paper
addressed to him, &and to depositedeposit them
so sealed in the Hands of one
Mrs Mackenzie in EdrEdinburgh, near the
New Stage-Coach Office, which I
promised faithfully to observe.
Accompêt

Date	09 Jun 1748
Person	Robert Forbes
Place	Bishop Keith's house

Account how I came by Mr. Gib's Pocket-book of Accompts, and of several Conversations I had with him at different Times

Here follows an Account how I came by Mr Gib’s Pocket-book con-taining his Accompts1, as also an Account of several Conversations I had with Mr Gib at different Times, &corig.

Here follows an Account how I
came by Mr Gib’s Pocket-book con-
taining his Accompts1, as also an
Account of several Conversations
I had with Mr Gib at different
Times, &corig.